why do you find a crowd behind every minister.except security guards ?
You generally find crowds—often called entourages, supporters, or fixers—behind ministers for a few key reasons:
- Constituency and Political Support: Members of the public and local political workers gather to voice grievances, request policy changes, or ask for direct political or personal favors.
- Bureaucratic Assistance: Ministers travel with administrative staff, secretaries, and subject-matter experts who manage paperwork, draft policies, and coordinate on-the-ground logistics during public appearances.
- Publicity and Image: A visible crowd creates a perception of popularity, influence, and public support, which is politically valuable.
- Media and Press Teams: Official spokespersons, media advisors, and camera crews follow to manage the minister's public messaging, record statements, and ensure favorable press coverage.
You said: is such a crowd of any use except manhours wasted?
Would you like to know more about the specific protocols for how ministerial entourages operate, or are you interested in how government officials in your region manage public interactions?
While these crowds often appear highly inefficient, they actually serve distinct political, administrative, and public functions.
Here is why they exist beyond just wasting time:
1. Direct Public Access (The "Janata Durbar")
- Why it matters: In many governance systems, these crowds represent citizens bypassing slow bureaucracy to get immediate help.
- The use: Ministers can fast-track approvals for medical funds, local infrastructure repairs, or legal disputes on the spot.
2. Immediate Feedback Loop
- Why it matters: Reports from official channels can be sanitized or delayed.
- The use: A crowd of local workers and citizens provides the minister with raw, unfiltered data about real-time issues on the ground.
3. Political Survival and Mobilization
- Why it matters: Democracy requires maintaining a visible connection with voters.
- The use: Showing up with a crowd proves the minister is accessible, which maintains the party's local network and secures future votes.
4. Real-Time Governance and Logistics
- Why it matters: A minister cannot memorize every file or policy detail.
- The use: The bureaucratic staff in that crowd provide instant data, draft official orders on the move, and execute decisions immediately.
Would you like to explore how different countries try to reduce these crowds through digital governance, or look into the financial costs associated with these public entourages?
You said: why waste manhours?it is ok,ifa few 4 attend with him but anY crowd morethan10 or 15
behind hiM for photoshoot.
You are highlighting a very valid and common frustration: when the group grows beyond 10 or 15 people, it often shifts from functional governance to pure political optics and vanity.
While a small team of 4 or 5 is enough for actual work, the larger crowd is usually kept there for specific political reasons:
1. Show of Strength (Power Dynamics)
- Intra-party rivalry: In politics, a leader's status is often judged by the size of their following.
- The optic: A minister traveling with only 4 people can look weak or sidelined to rivals.
- A massive crowd signals, "I am powerful and indispensable to the party."
2. Sycophancy and "Flattery Culture"
- Ticket seeking: Many people in those photos are local politicians or ticket-aspirants.
- The motive: They force themselves into the frame so the minister remembers their face when distributing party positions or election nominations.
3. The Digital Economy of "Clout"
- Social media content: Every person in that crowd wants a photo next to the minister for their own social media pages.
- Local influence: Having a photo with a minister allows local operators to show people back home that they have "connections" high up, which helps them run local influence networks.
4. Optics for the Voter Base
- The "Man of the Masses" illusion: A clinical, quiet meeting looks corporate.
- The strategy: A chaotic, crowded photo sends a psychological message to rural or traditional voters that the leader is "surrounded by the public" and loved, rather than isolated in an ivory tower.
Ultimately, you are entirely correct that this results in massive loss of productive man-hours and administrative delays.
Would you like to look at reforms or digital systems some governments are using to ban these large entourages, or explore how different political cultures (like in Scandinavia vs. South Asia) handle VIP culture?
To see how this issue can be fixed, it helps to look at how different countries aggressively tackle VIP culture, alongside the digital tools replacing these massive physical crowds.
1. Political Culture: Scandinavia vs. South Asia
The contrast in how politicians travel comes down to deeply ingrained cultural expectations of power and egalitarianism.
- The Scandinavian Model: In countries like Sweden and Denmark, the concept of Janteloven (the cultural norm that no individual is superior to others) dictates political life.
- Prime Ministers and ministers frequently commute via public trains, ride bicycles, or drive their own cars without any entourages.
- Walking into a minister's office involves minimal fuss, and traveling with a crowd for a "photoshoot" would be viewed as an embarrassing sign of insecurity or arrogance by voters.
- The South Asian Model: In contrast, countries like India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh inherited a mix of colonial British pomp and historical feudal structures.
- In this culture, visible power is equated with authority. If a leader does not have a large crowd or a convoy, the public and political rivals often perceive them as weak or lacking influence.
2. Modern Systems Banning Large Entourages
Several governments and leaders have actively tried to dismantle this culture through official decrees:
- The "No-VIP" Directives: In India, the government took a major step by banning the use of red beacons (lal batti) on VIP vehicles to curb the culture of superiority. Similarly, at the state level, various Chief Ministers periodically issue strict directives ordering local administration and party workers not to line up at airports or highways to greet them with bouquets and massive crowds.
- Institutional Austerity: In some countries, strict auditing bodies monitor official travel.
- If a minister attempts to bring an unauthorized entourage of 15 people on an official visit, the state treasury simply refuses to clear the travel and logistical expenses, forcing the team size down to a functional minimum.
3. Digital Governance Replacing Physical Crowds
The most effective way to eliminate the "man-hours wasted" in these crowds is by moving the interaction online so people do not need to chase ministers for photos or favors.
- Digital Grievance Portals: Platforms like India's CPGRAMS (Centralized Public Grievance Redress and Monitoring System) allow citizens to file complaints directly to central ministries online.
- Because these digital files are tracked with strict deadlines, it removes the need for a citizen to physically stand in a crowd to hand a paper petition to a minister.
- Virtual Town Halls: Instead of traveling to a district and causing a massive local bottleneck of politicians fighting for a photoshoot, many modern ministers use structured video conferencing to meet local administrators and citizens virtually.
Would you like to look into the financial cost and budget drainage that these large political entourages impose on taxpayers, or explore specific examples of laws passed to limit VIP privileges?
You said:
The direct result of this "photoshoot entourage" is a massive drain on the state treasury and public infrastructure.
When a minister travels with a crowd of 15 to 20 hangers-on, the financial and logistical costs are borne entirely by the taxpayerS.
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WHEN WILL WE IMPROVE?
WHEN WILL WE NOT WASTE
MAN-HOURS?
WHY MAKE AN EXHIBITION?
IN INDIA, ONE LAZY PERSON, LOOKS AT THE SKY,
A CROWD WILL JOIN WITH HIM AS A SWARM OF FLIES
AND WASTE THE PRODUCTIVE ,CREATIVE MAN-HOURS.
By extension, the term refers to any collective motion of self-propelled, coordinated entities following simple rules without central control, or people thronging together.
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